Join us on Facebook! www.facebook.com/groups/thisdislife
Dec. 22, 2020

Top 3 Underrated Rides feat. Mouse Ears and Magic Podcast

Top 3 Underrated Rides feat. Mouse Ears and Magic Podcast

James Williams, host of Mouse Ears and Magic Joins the show in a deeply personal and intimate discussion of family and love for all things Disney. We have a heart to heart discussion about podcasting and our Disney Ethos and then break down our hidden favorite attractions that span all four parks. We trade travel secrets and forge new relationships as we search for silver linings in the last interview of 2020 and a spectacular end to the first season of Disney Life podcast. Please join us for easily one of my favorite episodes of season 1. 

Transcript
Marc Valentine:

Disney Life podcast is brought to you by traveling with Lissy. You can find them over at travelingwithlissy.com. Well listen is there to help you plan your dream vacation, whether that's Disney universal or another destination. Leave the details to Melissa and enjoy the beauty of your destination without the hassle of the planning. Most of you may be asking why to book with the Disney travel agent. Why not? Traveling with Lizzy will actually save you money by always price monitoring and applying deals or promotions to your reservation. They are the ones that are staying on hold for hours so that you don't have to. It's a common misconception that using a travel agent costs more they are completely free to use. That's right folks, they are completely free. Disney pays them to take care of your every travel need. And they're also there to deal with any problem that may arise while you're visiting the parks. So instead of spending your valuable time at the front desk, you could be in the parks with your family while Melissa is on the phone dealing with any problem. Interested in a free quote, head over to www.travelingwithlissy.com and let Melissa help you start planning your dream vacation today. Again, that's www.travelingwithlissy.com Hello everybody and welcome back to the Disney life Podcast. I am your host Marc Valentine Disney enthusiasts annual pass holder and DVC member and as always, we are honored that you're joining our show today and helping us live our best lives. We have an incredibly fun episode today as we welcome James Williams to the show to discuss his incredible Disney podcast mouse gears and magic as he shares also his socials his YouTube his really fun Instagram, and the two of us in this episode today we are going to be giving some love to underrated attractions and shows as we discussed the lesser appreciated attractions at all of the Walt Disney parks in Orlando, Florida. If this is your first time joining the show, welcome home, you can find all of our episodes over at www.thisdislifepodcast.com as well as read our upcoming blog posts from all of our contributors. And while you're there, don't forget to subscribe, download your favorite episodes. And as always leave us a rating and a five star review. We appreciate the feedback and some information on how you are interacting with the show. So really, really good stuff, you may notice that the URL has changed. We've got some really big plans coming up with our contributors. And that is all in preparation of some really amazing changes that are going to be rolled out in season two, which will begin effectively in 2021. I've appreciated all of you who hung out with me throughout the course of 2020. But like a lot of season ones, it was a shortened season because we were just getting started here. So really cool stuff. Again, check us out at the new URL www.thisdislifepodcast.com. So it's my honor to welcome to the show, James James and I a little backstory we connected we connected on Instagram. And we met through a mutual guest, Lisa R who was on our amazing episode to discuss Disney Land over in California. And Lisa, through the show and through sharing notes and whatnot. Lisa said have you met James? And have you met Sarah? They have an amazing podcast. I'm a huge fan of their podcast. And I went and started to listen to the podcast and then reached out to James on Instagram and said hey man, loving the love in the pod. really enjoy. You know, just it's very heartfelt. It's really sincere. I love your passion for Disney. And I'm a huge fan of the pod. And then through the process James and I just started to talk. And we started to dialogue and then he started checking out some of the some of our pods. And then we have become you know, fast. We'll call it fast fans slash friends. Yeah,

James Williams:

yeah, I think that's fair.

Marc Valentine:

Welcome. Welcome to Disney life podcast. It's really amazing. And here's a here's a fun fact. James has he has lots of guests. He does amazing podcasts and we're going to talk about his show in particular because I want to plug them but he said this is the first guest spot I've ever done and it was so hard for me to believe that no one has ever seen you like no one has ever seen you in their studio before so we're honored we are the first show that welcomed you in man. It's an honor to be the first time

James Williams:

definitely all my man the what you're doing over there is just absolutely insane. You know, especially not not just your podcast but inside yourself. Facebook group as well. You know those game nights you do the Mandalorian, Mondays like what you're doing is just it's really epic. Me and Sarah we both just really dove all in, we're obsessed. He says the honor is all mine.

Marc Valentine:

Well listen, this, the thing is, and they Thank you like, I still don't know how to I never know how to receive ... Notice there that when people say that, to me, I really like I just I never know how to react because never in a million years that I think when you start a podcast, it's it's basically, you know, with you is you and Sarah and a microphone and a dream to just share your passion. And it was very much the same thing. Never did I ever think in a million years that on the other end of the microphone, at the other end of the technology would be people that would listen, and and, and react and love it. So it is it's a labor of love. But it's so humbling when you have people that that spend that weekly time with you. And then you just don't you don't know how to react. And so even if and I do suspect that even if there were like two people that were out there listening, I probably still do it. I probably still do it. So I appreciate that. But the other thing that I will say is the vibe that you get from Disney life is it's a byproduct of everyone that comes on the show. Like it's not it's not me. And as much as it's just I love bringing people on. And it's really their passion. It's their excitement, that really makes the show what it is. And it's bringing on a different group of people all the time to share their Disney life. And I when I tell people the concept of the podcast, I say listen, it's pretty simple. You're just going to come on and you're going to vibe out Disney for an hour. And you know, don't worry about anything else except just share your love and your passion. And that comes through on the air. And it comes very much it comes through on your show as well, too. And I loved like this last thing that we did on Sunday, where you just it was you and Sarah and Brian talking about Christmas movies on Disney plus, right? Like so fun. So fun like in that in that moment to just be sharing in your holiday favorites.

James Williams:

Yeah, and man, we throw some classics out there too, didn't we? I mean Miracle on 34th street like When's the last time you thought about that movie? You know?

Marc Valentine:

I love it. But I will say and I and so I I did have to leave your live broadcast a few minutes early to prepare for Family Game Night. And you hit me You hit me with the gut punch. Again, they tell me that sarah did not like elf.

James Williams:

Dude She hit me with that live? I mean, like sitting right here next to me. And she goes, I hate elf like, whoa, wait, we've been married eight years and I'm just now finding this out. She says she's told me before But

Marc Valentine:

yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I would have reacted to that live.

James Williams:

I don't know how it was brutal, man. It was brutal. And what was funny is you know we went to your family game night, right? Get your reaction on it. And then there's some YouTubers that do live chats and all late at night. I was on there. Everybody was talking about it. Everybody ended up bringing up like, how can somebody hate elf? She was like, What am I trending right now or something like what just happened?

Marc Valentine:

She did. She broke the internet. She did. She broke the internet with her hot takes. And she she she darn near broke me Family Game Night making me laugh with with meme the game. Yeah, she was on point. She was on point her humor was on point and I greatly appreciated her contributions to family game night as well. So the way I always start and whenever someone comes on, and I'm sure that you prepare for this, because you knew it was coming because every time I have a guest on for the first time, and I'm introducing them to our listeners, I like to start with sharing the Genesis, the beginning of your Disney life. What was it in your life that made you a Disney fanatic? Was it a movie? Was it a family trip? Like when did your Disney life begin?

James Williams:

Well, obviously, you already know. And And my answer isn't the most simple in the world. But uh, you can refer back to Episode 64 for all the details if you want to for our podcast. But uh, it was a you know, we lost our middle son when he was six weeks old. And then when we took Jamison, our oldest son for his fourth birthday down to Disney. It was, you know, obviously, the excitement you know, since we got to Disney, first thing we did was going to chef Mickey's, and, you know, Jamison, getting to see all the characters for the first time and everything. That was incredible, but it was something about when we were sitting there in the grass, you know, right outside of the ice cream corner just are the ice cream parlor, there in magic kingdom. And when happily ever after started, man, it was just, uh, it was just, it hit hard. It was a weight lifted off my shoulders. Um, you know, it's one of those things. It's hard to explain without getting overly emotional. But after that, I mean, obviously I was hooked. And then I started, you know, listening to Walt Disney biographies, you know, realized that Walt had been through lot of things similar, you know him and Lily had some miscarriages and all that really get him down. And just seeing how he bounced back from that and everything. And realistically, that's kind of how the podcast is born was based off a Walt, you know, bouncing back. And we have Disneyland and Disney World from, you know, his struggles and everything so.

Marc Valentine:

So I do want to tell you, that episode where you it was you, Sarah and Sarah did not appear it was you on that on that episode. It was the first it was my introduction to you, as a as a podcaster. It was one, like incredibly brave. It's it's really hard to do this. But people think that, you know, it's just, it's really easy to podcast and for an hour a week, you know, if it's going to be entertaining, you have to put a lot of yourself into the show. Mm hmm. And if you don't, then people generally will change the channel really quick. So that was the first episode that I tuned in. And I, I have never, I've never reacted to a podcast the way in which I did to that particular episode because I built in that moment, it was one it was really intimate. Like it was the first thing that you shared. And like you said, I knew your Disney life prior to this, which is also why I reached out to you then again and said, Hey, I like I had a moment when you when you broadcast that and it was the only time I've ever had that kind of visceral emotional reaction to a pop to a pod where I teared up, I had a lot of water in my eyes. And I was I was feeling that moment with you like it was amazing. Like that, that part of your your story is just incredible, like in the strength that you guys showed through that that life event. And the way that you guys have, you know, continued to live I, I can't I can't I can't put into words. But it was the moment with which I realized dude. I was like, these guys have a podcast unlike like anything else that I that I had tuned into. And it was when I didn't just become a fan. But I became devout in I love, love James and Sarah. And I love what they're what they're doing over there. Because it's real. Because it's real. And you and I have also had side discussions about and this isn't Disney as much as it's just like Disney related creators. Right? I had side discussions about so many podcasts are just devoted to weekly delivery of the news. Very seldom if ever do they get to that level where they really get personal and, and when I started Disney podcasts for the most part, you know, eight out of every 10 I listened to were just everyone doing the weekly Walt Disney World Roundup. Right. And so then I started to gravitate towards pods like yours, where I said, You know what, it's not just the content that I'm tuning in for it's it's the host, and I fell in love with the two of you guys as hosts. And that's what I love about the podcast. And you know, this week, when Mark Daniel kind of talked about the YouTube.

James Williams:

That was epic. It was epic. I did not see, that coming.

Marc Valentine:

But like Mark, like he hit it right on the head like and this is your this is your moment to feel awkward with the praise, but mark it right on the head when he said like, we love you guys. You're doing great stuff over there. You're just really great people. And like Mark could not have said it better that that first podcast that you did was a realization for me that I was like, You know what, like, not only do they have a really entertaining and fun podcast, but like they're just the salt of the earth people the kind of people that I do want to tune into to hear what they said, because I love what they're saying. Amazing, amazing story, dude. Amazing.

James Williams:

Sometimes, you know, it can be it's a good thing, and it's a bad thing at the same time, you know, because we were just we tried to be 100% honest, we don't sugarcoat you know, um, we just tell it how it is and sometimes that doesn't go over to well, you know, some, you know, some people don't like that, but it is what it is, you know, we're not we're not going to lie to somebody to you know, just try to get them to buy into Disney or whatever, right? We We want we wanna to we're just gonna, like I said, we're just gonna be honest, we're gonna be real. And, and we're gonna have fun while we're at it. I mean, what, what what's life if you don't have somebody stirring the pot, right?

Marc Valentine:

Well, there's a far... There's also a fine line between honesty and complaining. There are there are pods out there that I appreciate for their for Being Earnest and telling you the way it is. But then there's also pods that you wonder if the host actually liked Disney because they spend a good portion of the 45 minutes to an hour

James Williams:

now, man, right?

Marc Valentine:

ripping everything apart. I don't mind I don't mind when people inject or interject in and say hey, listen, you know, I'm not a fan of this or you know, here are the reasons as to why I don't think that this is a good investment or you know, this is not maybe the best experience that you could have. That's a vast difference then I feel like a lot of hosts come on to just create controversy and complain about The other the other moment to, which I haven't actually haven't discussed with you, but I said to a lot of our admins, when they saw you in our Facebook group, and they asked, you know who you were? And I said, you know, he's good people. And I shared with them the experience in the story, your Disney life, I said, but here's another reason that I knew instantly that James and Sarah were good. I said, he reached out to me as a sidebar and said, like, hey, what would you do if you had an episode that kind of went off the rails and got a little overly negative, because I feel like I had that happen. And I don't think I don't think I want to put this out for my fans, because that's just not who we are at our core. And that was the second moment that I knew. I knew that I had found someone that I was a kindred spirit with in terms of like, my my Disney ethos that I said, like this is good people, because that's exactly how we are. It's not to say that we don't want to be honest. But I also don't want to ever come to air and have an overly negative vibe to the podcast, because this is Disney. this is what we love. You can also say, Hey, listen, I have some recommendations. But if you don't love something, and you spend all the time complaining about it, why even why even do it in the first place?

James Williams:

Yeah.

Marc Valentine:

And I used to talk like, the analogy I would use to that is, and I love them, I love them to death. But the New York Yankees for a very long period, there started to bring me more misery than joy. And it was the year that they were and I bet you Ethan is probably jumping up and down as he's listening to this because it's it's recounting their greatest moment. And, and my worst, when the Yankees lost a series, they were up three to nothing. And they lost the series to the Red Sox. And the Red Sox came back four games to overturn a what was seemingly an insurmountable deficit. And they went on to win the series that year, that the Sox added added salt to the wound, but I remember at them I was I was like, really upset. And I was like, physically, Ill from from that. And my wife looked at me and said, Why do you watch baseball, if you get that negative and emotional about it, like turn the television off? And I said, You know what, like, you are 100%. Right? This is a long time ago. And then I switched the way that I consumed sports. In that moment, I made the change. And like I kind of feel the same way about Disney that if you have that, that negative then that visceral of a negative response to Disney. Maybe it's time to change the channel, or at least change the narrative. Or, dare I say, take a break for a while until you until you can put out something positive, not just not just from the people that consume what you're putting out. But from a mental health standpoint to it. Wouldn't that be better? Because like the Yankees were really like making me so mad that like, I was screaming at the television, and she's like, Listen, this is not positive. And I'm like, you're right. I'm turning off the TV. And if I ever feel in that moment, I still watch them. And I'm still very much a fan. But if I ever feel those emotions creeping up, you know what I do? Click on it. Oh, yeah, click. And then I find out the next morning. It's like they lost and I'm not emotionally attached to it. I'm like, Well, I kind of knew they were not upset. Like this year when they got bounced from the playoffs. I wasn't watching. Yeah, wasn't watching.

James Williams:

Yeah. And we're always talking pretty sure about, you know, teaching and coaching and everything. And that's how I ended up. You know, I was the same way with sports. My wife used to get so mad at me, I had, you know, probably 10 to 15 of the three inch three ring binders filled with notes from when I was watching football games and everything, you know, yeah, I just ended up having to turn it off. Just like you, you know. Um, and even. I mean, I, I'm an Alabama fan, right? I'm from Alabama. And you know, that there's not much we can get mad about when it comes to college football. And I'd still find myself getting frustrated watching games. I'm like, okay, but I gotta back off a little bit. You know, I don't catch every game. I don't I don't watch all of every game anymore. You know, you just got to back off. And, yeah, sometimes you got to do that with Disney too. It can get a little overwhelming at times, especially when you're as passionate about it as we are, you know, you start seeing some things happening and everything is like and you just turned off for a couple days.

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, I'll never I'll never say that. I don't have empathy for the people that feel that way. I do. And I won't even say that it's unjustified, it is. But what I what I will always caution people is just always be careful about regurgitating that type of negativity and attitude because it will it will permeate you. And I'm not saying that you, you know, I'm not I'm not a stoic. I'm not unemotional. And in fact, I'm a very emotional guy. But when it comes to the other stuff in the world, I just filter I try to filter it out so that I don't allow it to to change my effect. You know, so many people are critical of this podcast. If only to say like, Mark, you do realize there's a lot stuff in the world besides Disney, like you're so tone deaf and I go, listen, I watch news. I consume that stuff. I just don't allow it to. I don't allow it to take over my life. Yeah. And my escapism is a byproduct directly of those things. The Disney life podcast was born directly from that, that the world is the human world is a mess. Yeah, yeah. So I needed to leave it for a little while and come into the bubble. And it's virtual. And for us, it's a virtual bubble, but a bubble nonetheless. If I cant be in Orlando, Florida, I retreat to the Enchanted Tiki Room studio for an hour a week. And I allow my conversation in my connectedness with another Disney fan, to be the focus of that week, and it does help me navigate the other stuff in life. Yeah. And that's and I tell people, Look, listen, if you can understand that, I'm sorry that you can appreciate what what this pod is meant to do. And I'm sorry that you can't, you can't afford me. That mental health reparation. Because people like Dude, you like you're, you're nuts. And I'm like, okay, okay. Thank you. I mean, like, it's, it's fine. But we joke and I say, look, I wear I wear my Disney fandom as a badge of honor anymore. I used, I used to feel a little bit more ashamed. And the other episode that you had was self respecting men who loved Disney, which resonated with me, because it was something I needed to hear in that moment. But a lot of people are like, you're a 41 year old man who loves Walt Disney World? And I'm like yes. Yes. For a variety of reasons. First and foremost, I love it as as a Disney Dad, I love the purity of Disney and the way that it's, it's consumed by my child. When you become a Disney Dad, you're again, the start of your Disney story. That was your Genesis as well, exactly. We took our daughter when she was three. And it was the beginning of really a rekindling of a passion for Disney. But also, I love the purity and the message of what Walt Disney World created. He created an oasis. Hmm, he created escapism from the world. And that's, it resonated with me right now, in 2020. it resonated more than ever,

James Williams:

and something that I think a lot of people, you know, either they forget, or they just don't know, the whole reason Disneyland was started was when Walt had taken you know, every Sunday afternoon, he take his girls to the park, you know, they had daddy daughter time, and usually ended up with him sitting on a park bench, watching them play on the merry go round and go down the slides and everything. And that's when he had the idea of Disneyland to make a place where parents and kids can go together. And everybody have the same amount of fun, you know, and, and there we go, you know, you get Disneyland and then that just exploded to Disney World. And now it's all over the world, you know, so that, you know, that's something that a lot of man, especially, you know, for some reason, a lot of men just don't understand it. They're like, Man, you know, Disney's for girls, it's for kids. I mean, dude you're missing out, but you know, okay.

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, no, I listen, I agree. I agree wholeheartedly. I, I say this, I said this to Ethan on, you know, the wolf of Walt Disney and the wookie podcast. I always also know a good podcast when I'm nodding or talking back to the podcast. So I found myself in that episode, talking back to the podcast and voicing my agreement with what you're saying. Listen, I could um, this is this is like gotten really cool. Like we've we've gotten into areas that

James Williams:

we didn't expect.

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, it makes me didn't expect it. That's the other great thing about a podcast. But the reason I had you on was I wanted to get your take and I always love to have themes with with these podcast episodes. And I wanted to give love and attention to rides shows, attractions that don't really get their due. they are the perennial five minute-ers, or 15 minute wait times, but the 15 minute is more of a placeholder because you can walk right on. So this episode I wanted to do an episode devoted entirely to the underrated the untraveled the road less traveled Disney style. I think there is an unfair assumption that because these rides do not garner the crowds that they're throwaways, they're experiences that don't add any value to the Disney trip, right? So I wa ted to give them their day and t eir due. And as our last episod of season one, I thought it w s a perfect way to end 2020 to p t a cherry on top of what has een an amazing podcast season for us. We're not going a ay. There's no break. We're ust going to start broadcas ing Season Two and 2021 By the ay, so please don't like don't t ink oh, well, that's it. You k ow, I'll see you in a few we ks. We're not going anywhere. W 're coming to you next week. But we're going to start a new season with a bunch of diffe ent surprises, bunch of surpris s, but I thought this was the perfect way to end 2020 you you are, you're very much continu ng what I think 2020 has been fo us as a podcast, which is meet ng new friends meeting new peo le discovering things that we hadn't discovered. And the thi g about 2020 that I will remembe when I look back on this ye r of my life, are all of these p ople connected by 1000s of mile , and yet brought so close b cause of technology. So I thoug t what better way to celebra e the end of 2020 than to talk about the road less travele , slash attractions. And to, to ind of, to kind of focus on the hings that we forget about, ut if we paid them a little b t more attention, they would ad so much more flavor to the trip So it was kind of like I built he bridge between those two idea . And I said, What perfect ay to do that. So here's h w, like, let's let's to let's do it this way, and I'll lay I'll lay out the kind of the ground r les. You ready have formulat d your list, but if you pick som thing, I can't pick it, right. S this is kind of a new rule bec use usually, like when I have D ayne on and Dwayne will do his l st or we had Ethan on, I will a low myself and it's a cop out o do an agreement of that to o an agreement. So if you pick it, I can't, I can't pick it. I have to go to somethin else. And we're going to do li e a top three for each. So you a e the guest. I will give you homefield advantage so to speak you get to go first and take something off the board. S what is an underrated attracti n slash show that you just say Listen, man, no one goes to t. But it's, it's a must do.

James Williams:

Alright, so I want to start with one of probably the most underrated rides in all the property, especially Magic Kingdom. I'm going with the Astro orbiter. The Astro orbiter is the most underrated ride it honestly people. I hear it on podcasts, you know, hear people talking about it, see him talking in Facebook groups and everything that it just needs to be taken away. It's a waste of money. Nobody does it. Let me tell you when to do it. You do it at sunset. You get up there around sunset and you see this, you know you're you've got that bird's eye view, you're seeing the sunset, you know or over the castle Mainstreet USA. It's an unforgettable scene. You know, um, the only thing that I regret when we went this past December was that I didn't have a better camera to get better pictures. Because it I've never seen any pictures from up there at that time. It was just amazing. And not to mention it's you know, pretty fun watching the kids kind of freak out a little bit because you're so high up but at the same time they're wanting to go higher. So explain that one. But yeah, I'm going with that one did extra order.

Marc Valentine:

Awesome hot take for me. It was not on my list, I will admit because because the queue is somewhat hard to get you I have perennially skipped it. But I you I think you just sold me on it.

James Williams:

Yeah, sunset man, sunset.

Marc Valentine:

And that's awesome. All right. So mine, and it's kind of a cult, it's a cult favorite. It's a cold favorite. But the wait times are usually pretty low. My number one has to be over. And Epcot is living with the land. Everyone runs. Everyone runs over to Soarin' everyone checks out and flocks to Soarin' my wife, I have to give credit to this because my wife is really the fan of this one. That she made me a fan of it. But I I love it is a very relaxing and calm boat ride. I love the green house. It's just very fascinating. But it's it's a really informative ride. And it, it kind of harkens back to what Epcot was originally intended to be, which was edutainment, that each one of the pavilions had a theme that it was intended to educate, and also entertain at the same time. So half of it is a dark ride, half of it is the greenhouse tour, and all of it is magical. And then you could do the behind the seeds tour, where you can get you can get into the greenhouse and get even more of it. And it makes it even that much, you know, more interesting, but I also like the commitment that they made to it, where they just updated recently, the video segments and the audio at the tail end of living with the land, so that it really got a more modern makeover. And that now they have more even more modern agricultural techniques kind of broadcasted into that. So huge fan, and it's always a can't miss for us. It's become a lot more popular in the last few years because that cult following has kind of gotten out there. But before that it was a 15 minute wait all the time. It was a walk on.

James Williams:

Well, and you know, you can't forget about the overlays too, right. I mean, the Christmas overlay they did a little bit for Halloween, you know, with the pumpkins and everything but the lights I did a Christmas is really cool.

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, no, really cool. So that's my number one. Go ahead. It's off the board.

James Williams:

All right. I am going good, cuz I had that one, right. Um,

Marc Valentine:

that's why I went first with that,

James Williams:

man. Uh, so I'm gonna go ahead and go with the show and I'm staying the Magic Kingdom. All right. I avoided it as my first one because I thought you might take it considering the sign is right behind your head. I'm going with the Enchanted Tiki Room. I mean, come on, you know, how did you miss that one?

Marc Valentine:

You took it off the board. I had it, you took it off the board. Okay. Fair

James Williams:

So, look, I mean, it's, it's a really cool little show, right? But you get your dole whip. And even right now, even with the COVID restrictions and everything where you have to wear the mask and all, you're still socially distance when you're in the show. And they still allow you to take the dole whip in and you can eat it in there. perfect way to cool off, you know, you get things going on all around you. It's just, it's an incredible show. And then again, the story behind it, you know, you know how that came to be with Walt seeing this little animatronic bird in a birdcage through a window in New Orleans. You know, that's what inspired the entire show. Um, you know, the fact that they actually had to get a piece from NASA to make the birds you know, happen because they'd had to have a, you know, small enough chip and everything that everything behind is just absolutely mind blowing how they made it work.

Marc Valentine:

Good pick. Good pay, you took it off the board. For me, it was this. So I was going back and forth. Like which one do I drop first and take off the board. And I was like, you know what I have to do living with the land because I kind of feel like that's going to be there for either one of us. I

James Williams:

Right? hedged my bet and I I'm glad I got my pick, but I lost.

Marc Valentine:

But I love I love me some Donald Duck. He's Alright, so number two. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay in the Magic Kingdom. And I'm going to go with the show that I just I feel like it's it's not appreciated enough is Mickey's philharmagic gets a lot of crowds in the summer. For a lot of people who are first timers, but it does not get a lot of repeat love. I understand a lot of people are probably hearing that. And I I just felt the collective groan on the other end that people were like, Oh, it's aged. Yeah, it's aged to 3d technology is not as impressive as it was when when the concept was out 3d tech, by and large is not the draw that it used to be. And I understand that but the story of it is, it's really just it's a it's a great cartoon. It's a great cartoon, and I have a soft spot for Donald Duck growing up everyone. Everyone loves Mickey, your default is to love Mickey. my spirit animal that I get very passionate. So Donald's is he's a good guy. He's a really good guy. But he's sometimes allows his emotions to take over and he gets a little hot under the collar. Growing up I associated with Donald Duck. He was my spirit animal And I also felt like I felt so bad for the dude

James Williams:

nice. that he was constantly vying for attention. It was like, Mickey got all the love and attention. I was the dude yelling the you know, the Mickey Mouse. I was the guy rep and Donald. Yeah, that was me. So I love I love the fact that Donald in essence, gets his own rides called Mickey's philharmagic. But it really is Donald's I love I just I love the tech. I would like to see it updated. like they've done with a lot of the 3d experiences like they did with impressions. And they did with reflections of China. I feel like we got to get a little new tech in there. I feel like they can do a little bit with it. But I feel like most people avoid it on the regular. And if I had to do like a no, I can't do it when I'm sorry, man. I can't do it. I can't Mark can't do it. You cannot pick up on that yet. James isn't picked his third. But I feel like there's others. There are other shows in the Magic Kingdom that kind of get the runaround from the regulars. And I feel like this is one that even if you've gone 20 times, check it out the show you're always gonna leave with a smile on your face when Donald's butt is hanging out of the back of the theater. Yeah,

Marc Valentine:

you're always gonna laugh, you're always gonna smile and it brings a smile to my face every time so that's my second.

James Williams:

All right, so, man, this is a tough one. I'm just gonna go ahead. Let's go over to Toy Story land. I'm gonna go alien swirling saucers

Marc Valentine:

Good call,

James Williams:

you know, it's a very predictable ride, you know, like, you can see the tracks, you know what's going to happen? The queue, it has a really nice queue. Um, you know, the kids. For some reason the kids love being able to push those massive buttons and everything you know, in the queue, but being slung back and forth. And even if you're riding it solo, right, if you just watch the families around you, the sheer look of terror yet excitement on the kid's face, you know, you know, they get slung over into their dad and they're like, scared to death, and then they start cackling and then they're slung over into the other wall. It's just a lot of fun. And it's never it never has a line. You know, so you rope drop, go over to Slinky Dog dash, you know, you're up, drop it and then everything else is built up by then you're good to get on alien swirling saucers and have a walk on.

Marc Valentine:

It's a lot of fun. My daughter loves it. It depends on what time of the year you go. If you go if you go In the middle of tourist season, again, if it's people's first trips there, the line can creep up to 30 or 40 minutes but for an attraction that's really not that long 40 minutes is not long at all. And other otherwise it is walk on good call I had, I had it on my list. It's on here that I strategically was going to go to that if I if I needed to go to. I don't hate it. Alright, so the third one, I have to take this I actually did not expect. I thought you would pull this one immediately. And it would it's probably my number one. My number one, but I didn't want to go there because I wanted to leave it to you the guest to have the honor pulling it but you left it you left You leave me no choice. No choice I have to because this is it. This is number three for me now. Grand Fiesta tour for a lot of the same reasons that I chose. Mickey's philharmagic my boy, Donald Duck. I had I had to take it. I I love it so much. It is always a walk on always a walk on. I've gotten into discussions with people on the potential overlay for for Coco that it's right for. It's right for a Coco takeover. I have very mixed emotions about that. I always trust Disney and I know that a Coco ride with the new projections the 3d projections like they did with Mickey's runaway railway would be just jaw dropping amazing to see the land of the dead. In that huge space with the projections all around you in 360 degree view, with with animatronics in the foreground would be the most amazing thing that I think Disney could ever do to that space. And I would be onboard. But I think I would always I would always limit like I did with the great movie ride. I would always lament the ride that came before that I love. I love the great movie ride. But I don't cry for it anymore because the runaway railway is so good. Oh, I love I love the grand Fiesta tour. I leave that ride singing for at least 45 minutes to an hour after that. I'll walk around and I'll and I'll just like my daughter and be like, stop stop now. Because I'll just be like, we have the stars to guide us guitars here besides us to play as we go . And my daughter will be like, Okay, dad, we've had it with that.

James Williams:

You can tell her next time. Look, it could be worse. At least you can sing right? Yeah, you know, we get off carousel of progress or pirates. I'm singing for the next hour. Yeah, and I can't sing work the curse you know, so it's, it could be worse.

Marc Valentine:

She'll tell me she'd be like panchito chill, chill. But that's my that's probably my number one more people need to appreciate it. But if more people do then I feel like it almost loses that gem quality. You always know you can get on it. I love the ambience of the Mexican Pavilion. I love walking into the pyramid the little the little shop. You have the restaurant with people that are quietly dining there. It's just got a cool ambiance. And then the ride on the back end of it is

James Williams:

we actually did we did a rides bracket, right, so we did it for each Park and all and Three Caballeros actually made it to the final four for the Epcot bracket. Um, but the funny thing was, you know, it was mostly adults voting and everything right in the live chat. It seems that the the cold beverages that you can get over there in Mexico are really the big hit for that right. So

Marc Valentine:

they are people, people grab them a Margarita and they just, they ride it and they ride it. The truth. The truth be told is the hardest part is only picking three there. There are so many like we can This is the other thing as we delve back into the podcast world. I always tell people Disney content, you can always revisit this. So I love the fact that I and I shortened it. I said let's do three because I feel like there can always be a part b to this.

James Williams:

Oh, I have so many more.

Marc Valentine:

I have so many more that I wrote down. And like that's the great part. Do me a favor for those of you that are listening. I'm going to try to create a concurrent socials, let us know like, what's your favorite? What's your favorite on on underrated ride? What's your go to that you say hey, listen, I love the fact that it's always a five to 10 minute or a walk on. There's a lot that we left off of this list. purposefully, we left off this list, but some of that might also be strategic is I don't want it to get overly crowded. But good stuff like that's the thing I love about Disney, which whenever people ask me why we Disney is our go to destination I say because every single trip is different. There's always something to do. You can change up the trip any single any any single time. You can say this time around, we're going to focus on food. We're going to focus on extras we're going to focus on waterparks. We're going to focus on pools, we're going to focus on resorts, we're going to do shopping, you can you can say I'm going to make this a blank themed trip and then just Make it happen. No, no two Disney trips are ever the same ever.

James Williams:

Right?

Marc Valentine:

And that's why I tell people, that's what I love about it. You know, and I have people who are like, dude, I don't like to go, go Go and I'm like, Listen, then you would love Disney. Go go to, you know, go to Beach Club, and spend the time of your life at that pool. And you will you will thank me later. Later. But listen, I had a. I had a really, really amazing time with you. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much for coming on.

James Williams:

Thank you for having me man.

Marc Valentine:

I say to all I say to everybody, like I, I love like, I love having guests back again and again. And I know your passion and your love of Disney. So it's, it's never like goodbye. It's we'll see you

James Williams:

See ya next time.

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, we'll see you next. See you next time,

James Williams:

Yeah. That's what I always say. See you next time. My bad.

Marc Valentine:

So again, a quick plug for James. As you know, check out their their podcasts, its Mouse, its Mouse ears and magic podcast. And you can you can find them at www.mouseearsandmagicpod.com. They have an amazing Instagram. They have an incredible Facebook page as well. James is a part of our Facebook community does a live podcast he and Sarah are they're passionate. They're funny. They're informative. It's everything that I love about a podcast. We're friends, I'm and I'm fans. And I can't I can never say enough good about the people that I've met. And I've been Rich 2020 this being the official end of the 2020 season at Disney Life podcast. James, thank you for being one of so many friends that we've made in 2020. It's a bright spot of 2020. I appreciate you, sir. I appreciate your passion. I love your Disney life. It touched me like at the very core of my of my heart. And I love sharing that intimate moment with you on your podcast. And as did all of all of your fans. And I just want to thank you again for what you do. And for sharing your Disney life with everybody week in and week out on your podcast. Amazing. Thank you.

James Williams:

And I think you know, we got to give a huge thanks. I know you mentioned earlier but Lisa, you know, without her we probably weren't, you know, who knows when we would have met? You know, I'm down here in the southeast, it took a lady out in California to introduce me to somebody up in the northeast, you know, the Disney World is just insane how it works. And yeah, it's just an incredible community. And, you know, I'm so happy that we found you. And one thing that I've always had an issue with on podcasts, you know, when I first started listening was, you know, what, what is this person really like? So, and I put this in your Facebook group, I'm going to go ahead and hit you with it here too. So any listeners that might have any questions on what kind of person is Mark really like, he is probably the most genuine guy you're going to meet? Uh, I mean, we've only been chatting for what, you know, we can have two weeks, you know, it hadn't been that long. Um, we'd just kind of hit it off. And for somebody be so genuine to where, you know, he brought up, you know, the show earlier where, you know, kind of had some questions that kind of went a little negative. And if it would have just been me and Sarah, me, Sarah and Brian, it wouldn't have been an issue, I would have trashed it, you know, but we had a guest right? And that's what made it kind of an awkward situation for me. And I knew immediately I can go to Marc, he's gonna give me the best advice. He's gonna be straight up with me. A dude has a heart of gold. So you have chose the right podcast call home.

Marc Valentine:

I can't. Thank you. That's all I'm gonna say. Because Listen, I

James Williams:

crickets

Marc Valentine:

Yeah, I get emotional. I'm grateful for that. I, you know, no one's no one's perfect. and myself included, I just I try I try my hardest. I try my hardest. And I think 2020 was a huge paradigm shift for me. And that realization of, you know, we can all we all we can always give into or just say, say our inner demons are like you. It's a constant struggle between allowing all of those other things to change your mood, and really dictate the narrative of your day to day or just your life. And with 2020 with everything that I meant going on. I kind of I kind of reflected upon everything that I was doing in life as did many of us. And I kind of said hey, listen, you know what, just be a be a force for good in the world. And that's it, and that's it and no quid pro quos no expecting anything back you know, no expecting any cross promotions no expecting any. Any listenership no expecting anything, just like, try to do the right thing by people and then just leave it at that. And there there have been other people like that I have that I've lent those things to and, you know, and that they took it and they and they ran with it. And I listen and I, I don't say that in a negative way. I'm glad. I hope that what I told them or advice that I gave or just something that I offered them in that moment, enriched their lives in some way and that's it, and it just it if if a little podcast or a kind word or gesture, an email or a message can make that person's day make that person's week. Like, that's, that's kind of like what I've been all about. And I like, you know, I like to think that we in the Disney community are doing that for each other on the daily. And I just want to be one of the many. And the fact that the fact that I've met so many great people, as a part of that process is, it's just, it's, it makes you feel good at the end of the day, like you, you know, like, it helps you kind of navigate all the other stuff that's going on,

James Williams:

right

Marc Valentine:

in the world.

James Williams:

And, you know, I gotta say, a lot of, you know, the smaller podcasts, not smaller, but younger podcasts will say, you know, a lot of us started out, you know, like you said, no goal in mind. You know, I don't care who's listening. It was more of a mental and emotional health for us, you know, we can't we need that escape. And when you find the podcast like that, I think you're going to find, you know, find somewhere that you really can call home. Because you know, that your host is truly in it, just, you know, for their health and your health, you know, that they want to they want to remember that magic. They want to talk about that magic, and they want you to, they want you to experience that with them. So, yeah,

Marc Valentine:

well, listen, thank you, again, for joining us. I appreciate you. I appreciate what you guys are doing. And I love I love your story. And I love the way, you know, to continue what you just said, You know, I love you guys as hosts. First and foremost, what I love about the show, and then the fact that it's talking about something that I'm passionate about just is the cherry on top. But thank you so much for joining us. Thank you to all of the fans that have joined us in 2020. It has been an outstanding season one. I'm really excited for what's coming next year, we have an amazing, amazing slate of guests, all of our guests that have been joining us, many of our crew and our admins, we have some really great things in store. So hang on tight, come back, enjoy your Disney life with us, you know in 2021, because it's only going to get better and bigger and you know, more magical. Magical would be the term I would use. Thank you so much, everybody. I hope that you really enjoyed the podcast this season. I hope that you have a wonderful holiday. Thank you so much for all of the gifts that you've given to our family, the emotional enrichment that you've offered us throughout the course of the last few weeks. We really appreciate it. We love you all. And as always, I hope that 2020 has been a year where you've been able to find those silver linings, and I wish you a happy rest of 2020 I hope that 2020 and 2021 is filled with faith, trust and pixie dust. We'll see you real soon. Whether you're coming to Florida to visit Disney or the beach. Hinson photography specializes in vacation portraits for families and couples. a souvenir that you'll never forget. Visit www.hinsonphotography.com or c ll 3864788099 to learn more bout booking vacation portr its with Hinson photo raphy that's www.hinsonpho ography.com